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February 2, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Cindy McMellen
We need the trains back! Not only to bring business here but to transport people from here to Detroit, Lansing, Ann Arbor, Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo…. We would like to get to lower Michigan sometimes, just to visit. As others have said before
if you build it we will come!
February 2, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Jen
MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING! I don’t love the idea of high rises, or unsightly “complexes” everywhere either, but TC needs more affordable housing. We used to live in TC, but when it was time to step up from renting to buying, there was no way we could afford to live in town. We are about 30 miles out of town now and should more affordable (read; 130,000 and lower for a single family home), IN TOWN housing become available, we would jump at the opportunity to move back. No one in my social circle is poor, and all are working couples, many without kids, and almost none can afford to live in town. And I’m talking working professionals, not service jobs, but not doctors either.
February 2, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Joan Williams
I’m in Florida for the winter following the discussion about improving TC. Michael’s ideas are very exciting. Free BATA is a wonderful idea. Chicago has free ridership for the elderly on some of the mass transit and it has greatly increased usage especially for the poor.
Free WiFi and highspeed broadband seems doable and a no brainer.
I love the idea of small local farms.
I agree that we need to make living and working in TC a possibility for our youth and affordable housing within the city is a key component. Why not a job’s ambassador?
Above all, let’s not talk it to death but get busy doing some things.
February 2, 2010 at 7:44 am
Valerie
How about if we pick 3 of Michael’s ideas this year and get them off the ground, then 3 next year, then 3 the following year – we won’t break the bank and we’ll finally be moving along on the right path.
February 1, 2010 at 10:56 pm
David Mellor
Hey, thanks for this opportunity to comment. I’ve been reading about the results of the Traverse City Tomorrow conference. I didn’t get to watch it live, but the summaries are pretty good. Anyway, the idea of giving all the kids a BATA pass is super. My family has hosted international students and they all sort of go through culture shock because they can’t get anywhere without an adult driving them. Most of the kids were used to going wherever they wanted on buses or some kind of rail system. Our Japanese daughter really struggled with not being able to hang out at the mall, etc. because she couldn’t hop the train after school. It might not sound like a big deal to adults, but it was a serious thing for high school kids.
It would be such a great idea to just give kids in the county a pass as soon as they get into middle school. Safe, reliable transportation, in groups would be such a good thing.
Thanks for the opportunity to write this.
February 1, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Cindy & Ed
Please listen to Michael Moore’s ideas on helping TC become a vital community.
February 1, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Clarice Sperry
I live in northern Michigan, and am a senior citizen. I would love to visit Traverse City more often if there was good transportation, either through speed rail or bus service. Traverse City is a lovely place, and I could even visit my son who lives there more often, but I do not drive that distance anymore, but would love to visit often. Let’s get some high speed rail going in northern Michigan.
February 1, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Kay Smith
Chris, I just received an email from Michael Moore with his comments for the future of TC. I think your committee should listen to his ideas. Look what he has done for TC already with the film festival and the State Theatre.
Why can’t the city have WiFi and be wired with high speed broadband? Why wasn’t this done?
One of the first things that needs to be done is to provide toliets for visitors. Do you realize that we are the only community up here that doesn’t? Check it out. I have.
The train tracks do work. They go by right by our garage and have since we have lived here the past almost 30 years. Why can’t TC be working on getting rail travel for people up here and from downstate? Ken and I would be the first ones to use it. We are so ready for it. We saw about 30 passanger cars being taken back downstate after spending considerable time being stored in Grawn. What a shame that they couldn’t have stayed here and have been used by us.
Make downtown more festive during the summer. Close Front Street during the day one day a week – say on Fridays when there is Friday night live – but close it all day – and make it like a festival. Bands, food, tents with things to buy, movies to see, things for the kids to do. Not just Friday night, but all day. People love to walk in the street and spread out. It’s more like a community to do so.
Ken and I have talked many times with Lynn Moon and John Nelson. Lynn is very interested in building affordable housing. Not high end housing – but housing people can afford. She has built some, but not enough. People like Lynn and John should be encouraged to build their houses and other people like them should be found. This should be high on the city’s agenda – to get this type of housing built. Otherwise, another homeless shelter is going to have to be built.
Which brings me to the homeless situation. What is being done about that? Jobs!!!!! Where are businesses with jobs? Not businesses who come up here and say they are bringing jobs – and end up bringing only entry level jobs and bringing their own management level people with them. We need liveable wage jobs. Another high priority.
Promoting TC is good for tourism. Is anyone promoting TC for businesses?
Instead of giving jobs to Camp Pugsley inmates, why not give those same jobs to people at Goodwill Inn? The Cherry Festival uses Camp Pugsley people. Why can’t they use people at the Goodwill Inn? They need the money more than the inmates. Think about it. Doesn’t seem fair.
February 1, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Bonnie Spanier
Affordable housing, trains (yay!! connect TC with Grand Rapids, and we can go to Chicago or east to Detroit! Fab!), BATA passes for kids and other ideas to cut auto use in the summer especially, free Wi-Fi (how about if the biggest businesses kick in for that?), more PR to support local delicious produce, especially grown without toxic chemicals)–all of Michael Moore’s and others’ recent suggestions. Indeed, a bridgeway to cross Grandview Parkway (total accessibility; don’t forget wheelchairs and the elderly) before a major accident discourages visitors.
We have an amazing site here, with more resources than many places. TC’ers and area people are generous and love to maintain the smalltown feel with the bonuses of great art, food, music.
We can do it!
February 1, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Ronald Chao
I strongly agree with Michael Moore’s suggestion for Free Wi-Fi and High-Speed Broadband. Our desire to be connected to the Internet will be in demand much like our current needs to have cellphones and texting.
Harry Burkholder’s comments about keeping the pedestrian tunnel on Cass Street open all year is also good. I also favor using funds to build a pedestrian and bicycle bridge crossing over Grandview Parkway west of Division to connect the Tart Trail to the waterfront. In the summer, while risking their lives crossing Grandview Parkway on Division Street, tourists and locals alike are peppered with loud honks and obscenities from drivers making left turns from Division. There needs to be more safety and a friendlier environment for all of us.
February 1, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Kathie
I support the ideas that Michael Moore presented.
-Bringing High Speed Broadband should be among the first on the To Do list.
-Free bus passes on BATA for students will cut down on emissions of gas by-products and allow students to be less dependent on cars for mobility. Public Transportation is good for the city and community.
-Funding elevators in apartment buildings will keep housing accessible for those with physical impairments and allow more people to walk to their jobs and shopping.
I live on Division St. Reducing the speed to 25 MPH is a good idea, but not enough. I’d also like to see a decibel limit on trucks. My house shakes when air brakes are applied. Other cities have noise limits and “No Air Brakes” signs. I’d like to have noise limits enacted and enforced.
Thanks for the chance to share my ideas.
Kathie Scott
February 1, 2010 at 1:48 pm
sylvia mitchell
Michael Moore’s suggestions are very good ones especially those about Free WiFi and High-Speed Broadband. We need the stimulus money to allow us to compete for new businesses up here. Work on getting the stimulus grant should start right away.
January 17, 2010 at 9:43 am
John R. Williams
January 16th. what a wonderful sunny, mild day for TC. I rode my bike to work in the morning, pedaled all over town in the afternoon running errands and was struck numerous times at how peaceful and quiet it was. Traffic was busy, as all Saturday’s are. I was cheered up by the song birds alnog Woodmere Ave.
This morning (Sunday), it dawned upon me….Why was Traverse City so pleasant, calm and quiet? There were no straight-pipe motorcycles out and about yesterday (or this morning).
Now, I’m the LAST guy to take away anyone else’s freedoms. However, motorcycles that make more noise than a car are just plain wrong. I am glad people get out on their bikes. I’m sure many motorcycle tourists come to our town. However, if we are to claim our city (or re-claim it) we, as a city or a region need to say, “be here and be quiet”. Many motorcycles are changed to make more noise, to garner attention, by their owners.
The general public revolt against noisy “jet-ski’s” has resulted in manufacturers building almost silent watercraft now. Noise Matters! Traverse City should claim itself now, in the winter, before the activity begins. Traverse City has a Noise Ordinance Officer, http://www.ci.traverse-city.mi.us/generalord/652.pdf
The surrounding Townships have one as well: http://www.michigantownships.org/mta9052653.asp
Portland, Oregon has dealt with it; http://www.noisefree.org/newsroom/archive/articleportland.html
The State of Michigan is quite clear about it too:
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(52n3eey5amgxnl55shszjk55))/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=mcl-257-707b&highlight=
Traverse City must exercise its laws, enforce excessive sound pressures and use it for revenue enhancement. Post on the City Limit Signs along with our proclamation of a “Tree City, USA” and a “Bicycle Friendly Community” that we are a “Quiet City, USA”. Motorcycles can idle through town. However, if the thoughtless, selfish rider chooses to make excessive noise, they get an expensive fine and a time out.
January 15, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Bill Plough
This IS a new year yet the economy is still sketchy at best. Peoples’ incomes/pensions are not keeping up with the costs for many goods and services yet I hear “drum beat” for millage for a number of agendas. This is the wrong time to raise taxes!! Other than the elite whose pocketbooks are flush, most folks need to have things remain status quo when considering taxes. Trails and bayfront improvements need to be built with grants and possibly Brown Bridge funds–not dollars out of our pockets.
January 9, 2010 at 4:55 pm
John Robert Williams
This is such a wonderful forum! Granted, crossings of Division St are needed, but let’s look at the major carrier of non-motorized traffic. It flows from and to the Central High School/base of the peninsula, to downtown (and parts further). From the Holiday Inn, east to Eastern Avenue, there is possibly the greatest amount of ped/cycle traffic anywhere in town. The widened sidewalks in front of the NMC Great Lakes Campus serves us well, but east of Barlow, a narrow sidewalk with 9 driveway crossings challenges both riders and walkers. The sidewalk terminates at Peninsula Drive and puts walkers, the high school runners and cyclists in a “no-man’s land” on the street surface, save for a few feet at the Garfield intersection at Bryant Park. It’s time to start making sense and safety for a MILE of heavily used non-motorized traffic. Peninsula Drive should have a separate, wide, non-motorized path on the bay side of the street, to connect the parks, assist in the vast numbers of cyclists to get safely to and from the downtown, via the base of the peninsula. Build it and they will come. Please help make this non-motorized corridor a priority, too. East/west traffic happens at more than just Division Street.
November 26, 2009 at 4:16 am
Cindy
The simplest, least expensive solution to making a TC Dog Park is to simply change the current wording on Park entrance signs from:
‘ALL DOGS MUST BE ON LEASH’ to:
“PLEASE KEEP YOUR DOG ON LEASH OR UNDER CONTROL”
HICKORY HILLS OPEN FIELD seems to be the naturally designated DOG PARK but the current signage allows for a few vigilantes that have yelled at me that my dog is NOT on a leash like THE SIGN SAYS…
Hope this helps as the ROADS to get to Hickory Hills Park need more IMMEDIATE expenditures anyway!
November 18, 2009 at 3:44 am
Matthew Ross
Chris,
Great idea, having this forum so people can be heard.
I also wanted to voice my concerns regarding Division St. I believe the speed limit between from 14th st. to Grandview should be reduced to 25 mph. The speed limit now is 35 however people travel at up to 50mph. I have an 11 yo daughter that has to cross division at 7th st. to come home from school. There have been days that she has had to wait through 2 light changes to cross because drivers do not give her the right of way.
My wife and I also cross there daily to and from work. This is a major safety issue that the city has known about for some time and has ignored.
November 16, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Nicole
2 thumbs up to the idea of having a dog park. While TC is a dog friendly city and there are plenty of places we can take the dogs, most do require that the dogs be on a leash. It would be fantastic to have a place where they could safely run and play. Thanks for asking.
November 15, 2009 at 3:51 pm
mindy hawley
I think a dedicated dog park in Traverse City would be a wonderful addition ad help attract and retain residents. Currently we dog owners have to have our dogs on leashes everywhere. Now we all know there are places we dog owners go and let our dogs run but it would be nice to have a place just for that purpose so the other on-leash areas would be more respected. Thank you for working in this for our community.
November 14, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Carol Nette
A Dog Park – oh my, yes!!! It would socialize both dogs and people plus be great exercise. I would use it several times a week. My dog and I would love it! If it’s a money issue, a small fee could be charged to enter the park.
November 13, 2009 at 5:30 am
dennis hampton
i am for a dog park.when i moved to traverse i was surprised to hear there was no dog park. we need places to take our dogs we cant take them on most of the beaches. thanks
November 12, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Kerri Collier
I would love to see Traverse City embrace the community dog population by adding a dog park. It has been a successful trend in many cities! Some dogs need more exercise than an “on leash” walk can provide. There is no reason why a well trained dog shouldn’t have a place to run & play with friends. It would be a superb thing we can do for the community!
November 12, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Katrina Schultz
The idea of a dog park is wonderful! There is nowhere to go to let our dog run and play. It would be a great addition to the community and give dog lovers a chance to unite.
November 11, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Misty Dawn
I am in favor of a dog park!
November 11, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Susan Darling
I love the idea of a dog park! There is really nowhere to let our dog run and play.
November 13, 2009 at 12:29 am
Chris Butler
Yes, a bark park would be excellent!
November 19, 2009 at 2:58 am
Ashlee E
I am totally for a dog park!!! I think it’s a great idea, we need somwhere just for dogs!!! I am all for it!!
November 6, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Harry Burkholder
Hello Chris.
Thank you for providing this forum opportunity.
I would like to comment on your suggestion to use the Brown Bridge funding to implemnt the development of our waterfront area. I am greatly in favor of it. While there are many things to like about the waterfront area, I beleive we can make things a lot better. This starts by re-examining the implmeneting several of the recomendations outlined in the waterfront plan. In my opinion, the first priority should be better pedestrian access across Grandview Parkway. This can be acheived by implementing a series of traffic calming measures. The City Planning Department is fully capable of helping to design these traffic calming measures. In the mean time, we need to keep current pedestrain access open. Can you explain to me why we gate off the cass street pedestrian tunnel during the fall and winter months? What kind of message does this send to the year-round residents. I personnaly use the waterfront everyday and use that tunnel quite often. In terms of other capital improvements. I would really like to see a large childrens playscape and water feature geared to kids (i.e. splash park). The water feature in the recently renovated waterfront park in Charlevoix is a good example. I believe this feature, in part, led to the parks designation as a “great place” by the American Planning Association. The water feature would attract kids, which inturns attracts families.
Lastly, I would like to make plowing the sidewalks and paths around the waterfront a priority. Often, it seems like these are the last sidewalks to get plowed. Again, why are making it harder for people to access one of the crown jewels of the community?
One more thing on another issue – we need to make the reconfiguration (i.e. traffic calming, landscaping and crosswalks) of Division street from Front street to 14th street a priority.
November 4, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Scott Hardy
Chris,
Thanks for doing this. It has great merit and gives residents a chance to propose positive solutions to problems we all complain about at one point or another. As you have heard from me before I would like to weigh in on affordable housing.
My simple premise is that we should not, and cannot, build our way into providing afforable housing within the city proper unless we totally redefine what consitutes “affordable”. Land and construction costs are to high to build anything that would sell for less than $150,00 without subsidies. My preferable solution would be to incent first time homeowners to buy into the ever expanding inventory of existing housing that currently exists within the city. Create tax incentives, home improvment rebates, and mortgage downpayment loan programs that would allow new homeowners to inegrate themselves into existing neighborhoods and incent them to fix up existing housing stock. In this way the neighborhood improves, we don’t segregate lower income familys into “affordable housing complex’s”, and we increase the tax base by uncapping some older homes that may have been used for rental income. I believe that homeownership is nearly always preferable to rental property for most neighborhood residents. While rentals will still be needed find a way to incent rental owners to live in their properties or, at the very least, within close proximity to the units. Make them active members of the neighborhoods they buy into.
None of this is simple but, as we saw with the Whiting Hotel, we seem to fight developers at every turn even if they propose a low income housing alternative. I can assure you that Gene LaFave was never going to “get rich” on that project. He also was taking an existing building and renovating it with exclusively state and federal monies. Those dollars will now flow to some other community and never end up back in the taxpayers pocket. We need to take a more pragmatic view of how this city will grow and make sure we don’t lose the very folks who may well lead us in the future.
Scott
November 1, 2009 at 10:58 am
Julia Wagner
Great idea, Chris. This is a wonderful way to voice concerns and prioritize citizen concerns. I live in the Central Neighborhood and would like to see more effort put into slowing and reducing traffic cutting through this neighborhood. A few years ago a great deal of time and expense was put into studying traffic calming. There were many good ideas and not all of them very expensive. There must be a way to implement a few of them.
I would also like to see the police give out more tickets to speeders on residential streets.
October 22, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Bill Palladino
Heather makes great points about the 7th Street crossing to Division. For me, however, it’s a much broader issue. Traverse City needs to take back that road from the arrogance of state transportation bureaucracy. MDOT has a mandate to move vehicles, but it cares little for the safety of the communities whose roads those vehicles pass through. Fatalities are the measure for action, not safety, or public need. I believe you, as mayor- Chris, could help a great deal by changing the current paradigm of deference to Lansing.
As an active community member, the process appears ineffective and inefficient at best. At worst, it is cynical and counteracts the foundation of why we choose to live here. The city appears to step aside for MDOT for fear of angering the great money machine.
The short of it is, we’re talking about a critical pathway through the city, one that many bicycling commuters use daily, and one that many more might use if the perception of it were different. Changing that perception could be as simple as throwing down paint. Paint for crosswalks, paint for a bike lane, paint to remind motorists that cars aren’t the only ones on the road. Inevitably, however, the response we get is mired in “buts” and “you don’t know how complex this is,” or “this will take time to plan.”
It’s time we do something about it. And you, as mayor, could do a lot. I would also urge you and the rest of the commission to trust the community more and ask for our help. I know many good people in this community who would step up either financially or in volunteering time to move projects like this forward. I don’t expect you to do it alone.
Many thanks,
Bill
October 19, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Heather Peyton
Re: Transportation/Bicycle Safety
I recently sent this letter, followed up by the email to the City Commission. The response was very hopeful.
“I would like to request that the bicycle safety of the crossing at 7th and Division be addressed. At this point, it is safe for westbound bicycles to continue along the street crossing Division . However, eastbound bicycles are faced with a one-way street. I have seen several options to dealing with this . Most common is that people ride along the sidewalk, even west of Division, and then bike across the crosswalk and continue on the sidewalk on the east side. There are two issues with this, one is legal, and the more important is safety. Eastbound cars turning right tend to look for traffic coming from the left and ignore activity that is unexpected. Pedestrians move slowly enough to stop, but a bike once committed is vulnerable. Also, there are many studies reporting that sidewalk riding is very unsafe and it shouldn’t be a habit that we encourage. Some bikers ignore that it’s a one-way street and pedal hard to get to Maple before a vehicle approaches. Others make a left hand turn and head for the alley between 6th & 7th. None of these options are safe and they are often confusing.
Bicycles are forced to be confronted with this issue because, even with its difficulties, 7th Street with its light is still one of the safest and quickest crossings. Front Street is perceived as too busy and narrow for biking comfort. 14th, with all the vehicular turning, is uncomfortable even for experienced riders. That leaves the crossing at the bay, which seems to be working though with its own issues, but is a long way north if you are commuting to work at the hospital, government center, or the Pavilions; or, conversely, to downtown. Seventh Street is also part of the TART Cross-town route, and as such should be safe for all bikers.
I have seen a solution to this. Several communities have implemented “Contra flow” bike lanes where appropriate. Simply, there is two way bike traffic but only one way car traffic. The contra flow bike lane is well marked and signed. I don’t feel it should extend past Maple Street, where people can safely go either north or south to two way streets. Communities such as Boulder, CO, Eugene, OR, Portland, OR, Madison WI, Minneapolis, MN, and Cambridge , MA. have implemented contra flow bike lanes . I have included some websites that illustrate this solution.
Perhaps, the solution could be included in a plan for a re-engineered Division. What a good job was done on Woodmere. It is a pleasure both to drive and bike. I wrote to the City a couple of years ago asking for help in this matter but received no response. TART wrote a letter in March of 2008 with no response. As we see more and more commuters (some all year), and recreational bikers on our streets, I’m hoping this will be the year that something can be put into action.
email:
I trust that you have received my mailed request that the issues of 7th & Division be addressed. You might wonder why I’m the one advocating for more safety. On four occasions I sat at 7th & Kid’s Creek counting bikes and watching how they handled the crossing. This fall, there were 49 bicyclists in a 2 hour period and I worried about most of them. Talking to a few users of that intersection, I found they used it because of the light and weren’t aware of how to improve the safety. Like most of us, we tend to think in terms of convenience for the cars. They were grateful that Traverse City has been slowly becoming more bike and pedestrian friendly.
Those of us who live just outside the city limits, come to town frequently, to use the downtown facilities, and wanted to feel connected to the community. The city might legally end but Traverse City keeps going. I hope you will seriously consider my request and not dismiss it out of hand.
Thanks for the positive response.